EST. 2021

A weekly podcast for creatives about the creative process. Learn how to finish what you start, ship your work, and build a business without yelling.

12 creative rules, reminders & guidelines to keep you from losing your mind or giving up.

What if you didn’t have to “out noise” your “competition.”

What if you didn’t have to hustle your face off to get a couple clients? 

What if “marketing” felt fu*king good. What if you didn’t have to do it their way?

“Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.” – Rumi

How many times have you stopped right before the wheels left the runway? How many dead ideas do you have lingering around sucking your energy?

How frequently do you get distracted by another idea before you finish the one you started….?

For us, it’s a lot…a sh*t ton. It’s embarrassing…

But we’ve learned some stuff.

This podcast exists to get you through “it”. 

As a creative living in a loud world, it’s easy to get overwhelmed and distracted. It’s not hard to fall out of momentum.

So, we’re here to be brutally honest about what has worked for us and our guests.

We’ll give you ideas, stories, and mental models around the creative process, building your sustainable business, and riding the emotional wave that comes with it.

Twice a month, we’ll have conversations that will help you stay focused and get into momentum. We’ll give you permission to do things your way.

The way that feels good.


“Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder.” – Rumi

Meet the Hosts

Miles Hanson

Brand storyteller, strategist, and designer. I help my clients go from wandering brands to thriving brands that stand the test of time. I take clients through the BrandBox to clarify their brand story, strategy and design.

I love playing the guitar, climbing, frozen mangos, coffee, and a nice cold west coast IPA. I’m from Austin, TX, lived in Denver for 4 years, and am currently seeing if I’m a “beach guy” in LA. 🙂

Bill Small

Not long ago, someone asked me, “What do you create?” I had to think for a minute… Then I replied, “I create music and conversations!” It’s true.

That’s what I do. I make music. I coach amazing people. I have conversations that make a difference. I ride my bike when I can, and try to be a good dad.

The Box

A container for creatives to finish what they start.

The world is overwhelming. We’re constantly being pulled in a million directions, and it’s only going to get worse.

So much of what we’re sold online is about planning, strategizing, and thinking. But doing is the hardest, and most important part.

The Box is where projects get finished. In The Box, you’ll get organized, prioritize your projects, and finish what you start. You won’t learn anything new, you’ll simply get a lot done and be a part of a small community of doers.

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